Karl Stefanovic denies being a shape-shifting lizard as he responds to wild QAnon conspiracy theory – and admits he has a ‘very close friend’ who believes in it
Karl Stefanovic wants the world to know he is not a shape-shifting alien lizard.
The Today host, 47, reaffirmed his human credentials on Tuesday while discussing the debunked QAnon conspiracy theory with writer and activist Van Badham.
Ms Badham explained that some QAnon followers believe reptilian humanoids have invaded earth to control the human race, before saying that ‘in the QAnon ethos, Karl would definitely be a lizard person’.
Human: Today host Karl Stefanovic (left, with Allison Langdon) denied being a shape-shifting lizard on Tuesday while discussing the QAnon conspiracy theory
‘Anybody who has been in the media for more than 10 minutes generally has a conspiracy attached to them,’ the journalist added.
Karl playfully stuck his tongue out of his mouth to prove it wasn’t forked, then joked: ‘I don’t have a long enough tongue [to be a lizard]!’
‘Yeah but you’re hiding it from us, Karl! You’ll turn around and we’ll see the tail!’ Badham laughed in response.
Wild theory: During the show, Badham explained that some QAnon followers believe that reptilian humanoids have invaded earth to control the human race – before saying that under that ‘in the QAnon ethos, Karl would definitely be a lizard person’
Discussing her book QAnon and On – which works to expose some of the more bizarre theories from the far-right wing movement – Badham explained: ‘I’ve discovered that people believe in what they want to believe.
‘The strange thing about the world we live in is that we live in the most information-rich society on earth, we all carry around personal computers that can answer any question factually, and yet people want to believe there are lizard people.’
She continued: ‘They want the world to be a lot simpler than what it is – especially during Coronavirus, we’ve been bombarded with information about science and health care and who’s to blame… it’s complicated.
‘When people are in the conspiratorial mindset, it’s because they want the world to be polarised. Good, light, bad, dark, humans and lizard people.
‘They want a really simple story to believe in; they want to know who the bad guys are, so they invent the bad guys.’
Exposed: Discussing her book QAnon and On – which works to expose some of the QAnon theories – Van Badham (right) explained: ‘The strange thing about the world we live in is that we live in the most information-rich society on earth, we all carry around personal computers that can answer any question factually, and yet people want to believe there are lizard people’
While conversing on QAnon theories as a whole, Karl added: ‘I’ve got a friend of mine – very, very close actually who is into it.
‘He was getting information, especially during the US political cycle, that was pretty spot on. Is there actual credible links to the right information?’
‘Not really. Not in the channels that I go to,’ she replied.
‘What happens Karl, is because the propaganda is so relentless, people enter what’s called a sealed information environment where they stop trusting mainstream media, and decide all newspapers are evil.
‘They get all this information from self-appointed conspiracy gurus online, and the nature of their reality tends to bend, and they start creating libraries of information to justify all of this crazy stuff.
‘I got a little meme the other day in one of my undercover personas with different types of lizard people – there are apparently different kinds, from different galaxies and they have different agendas, apparently.’
Questions: Karl later revealed he has a ‘friend’ who is ‘very, very close actually who is into’ QAnon conspiracy theories